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Why I like to fly Fish in the Surf
Tight lines on Sunday!!!!!
Hiptothat
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Tim P
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| posted on 9/29/03 at 01:02 PM |
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hip,
Nice!
standard questions, though:
what (species)?
where?
what (kind of bug)?
what tide position?
tim
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| posted on 9/29/03 at 01:33 PM |
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Whoa...nice fish Hip!
I should have called you up Sunday. I will give you a call somtime this week if you are going to fish. I had car problems this weekend and couldn't
fish till Saterday evening.
Is that a toad corbina or spot fin?
S.Lee
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| posted on 9/29/03 at 06:09 PM |
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Sorry about the lack of info this morning but I just had time to post and run.
It's a Spot Fin Croaker caught at Scripps in La Jolla . Iv'e only caught or seen them south of orange county. There numbers had dwindled from years
ago and may even be a protected fish. I was very happy to see him swim back out to the surf.
tight lines Hip
I caught it on a #8 variation of the old standard sandcrab pattern. It's a cross between the jay murakoshi soft shell sand crab and the standard
chenille pattern. The great thing about it is you don't have to glue the backs and they hold up pretty well. I also caught about 8 bsp 3 small rays
and a tiny 5" corbina all on the same fly.
I was working the incoming tide at the crack of dawn.
I had alot of line out because he hit on the third
strip. It was great, Scripps is a fairly even shelf so it's like fishing in the flats with the right tide. It remains pretty even and shallow .
The fish busted it's tail through the surface and proceded to take me pretty deep into my backing. With a 6lbs tippet and a freshly changed fly
line I was at his mercy on the first run. I was dodging surfers large clumps of kelp and hoping the Nail Knot was good from the change over.
Luckily for me it all worked out. That fish erased the pain of a dozen on shore wind, red tide, eel grass infested beaches, short takes and LDR's
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 08:50 AM |
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congrats
Hip,
Congrats on the toad spotfin! Fantastic for
you, but makes me realize how far I have to
go for better results - geez, I work 150 ft
up from the pier and have fished it more than
a dozen times over the last year (my 1st year
of fly fishing). Most of my sessions have been
near sunset rather than in the morning. I have had some luck with
the beans, but none with the spotfins. As
I have mentioned in posts here or on fliflicker
I have seen more than 80 sizeable spotfins at
a time from the high vantage point of the
pier.
How do you fish your sandcrab fly - it sounds
like you are not just drifting it on a tight
line, and not just chucking it near the water's
edge.
I'd enjoy fishing with you
if you are ever down this way again - I
have left my contact info (and a question
about your sandcrab fly) on the U2U service on
this site. Thanks for the inspiration,
Steve P.
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 03:08 PM |
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Hey Steve, I sent you a message on the utu I didn't even know that feature was available very cool.
Wow 80 spot fins swimming around maybe there on a comeback. At Scripps I've walked up on fish and you loose your breath thinking that's the
worlds largest corbina. Then you'll catch a profile and it turns into a Spotfin.
When I fish a Sandcrab fly out in the open like at Scripps. I strip really short, fast and hyper. When you throw a loose sand crab in open water it
goes nuts trying to get down. I just try to mimic that pattern.
SD fly shop said there has been guys getting them but they have been spotty. Here one day and gone the next. They may have more info on how these
guys are getting them and on what type of fly. There is a picture of the owner with a beautiful spotfin at the counter.
Good Luck Hip
Ps I head down that way about once a month.
I'll give you a buzz next time I'm in town.
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 03:51 PM |
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Hey Hip
Are you going fishing this weekend? And if so where? I am itching to hit the surf early Saturday morning. I will give you a call soon.
S.Lee
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| posted on 10/2/03 at 05:00 AM |
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s. lee, Saturday is a no go for me. I might be able to fish on Sunday.
hip
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 posted on 10/3/03 at 01:32 PM |
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Thats all right
My car is giving me problems again so fishing this weekend is out of the question for me.
Good luck on Sunday and catch some monsters.
S.Lee
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| posted on 10/9/03 at 02:51 PM |
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would you mind sharing the recipe for your sandcrab pattern? perhaps the materials should be obvious, but what is the shellback material and the
other components. thanks.
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| posted on 10/9/03 at 03:56 PM |
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#8 /#6 tiemco 811s. med tan chenille /orange chenille for body.
Grizzly hackle for the legs and I use grizzly rabbit fur strips for the backs. At first it's a bit tricky getting it to lay down properly.
Depending how you cut the rabbit fur also changes the amount of fur that sticks out. You can make it smooth like a standard sandcrab or keep it long
and have a lot of loose fur on the back.
I've caught fish on both styles but that paticular fish hit a long haired version.
If you have any other questions just throw up another post. good luck Hip
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